Installing a transmission-mounted PTO

September 20, 2021
Kurt Polsley – International Sales Director

The majority of power take-offs (PTOs) used today in the North American market are on the side or bottom opening. The Society of Automotive Engineers (SAE) has set the standard for 6-bolt and 8-bolt patterns, and there are also non-standard 6-bolt and 10-bolt patterns. These openings refer to the number of fasteners used to attach the PTO to the transmission. A 10-bolt opening is exclusive to automatic transmissions manufactured by Allison, Caterpillar, and Ford.

Many problems can be avoided by exercising extreme care during the installation procedure. 

 

 

Follow instructions as to where warning and safety labels are to be placed and review the following steps before starting the installation process:

1. Before installation, listen to the engine and transmission while it is running, so you can distinguish any unusual sounds.

2. Make sure engine is off and remove keys.

3. For manual transmissions, drain the transmission fluid. For automatic transmissions, do not drain fluid, but be prepared for some seepage.

4. Then, while under the truck, remove the cover plate, and inspect the drive gear for correct backlash manufactured into transmission gear sets.

5. Check the mounting surface of the transmission and the PTO drive gear in the transmission for anything that could cause problems (nicks or burrs).

6. When the PTO cover is off, prepare to clean the mounting surface by placing a clean shop towel on the opening to eliminate debris from going into the transmission. It is recommended to also clean the bolt holes. Items necessary for cleaning:

  • Shop towel
  • Wire brush
  • Putty knife (optional)

7. Open PTO box to inspect the unit and make sure you have all the mounting hardware.

8. Before installing the PTO, the installer should be familiar with the unit’s backlash .006 in.–.012 in. (or .15 mm.–.30 mm.) between the PTO input gear and the transmission drive gear. Rock transmission gears by hand to get feel for gear backlash.

 

Note: Before installing a PTO, use a dial indicator to check the backlash.
 

9. Install the studs until barrel of stud is even with transmission pad. Typically this requires a torque limit of 30–35 lbs.ft. (6-bolt opening), 45–50 lbs.ft. (8-bolt opening), or 40–45 lbs.ft. (10-bolt opening). However, it is recommended that you check your installation manual for proper torque limits.

10. Remove the shift cover or inspection cover plate from the PTO to rock input gear with transmission PTO drive gear to get the feel of backlash which is helpful when fitting PTO to transmission.

11. Place gasket or shim from your kit over the studs, a thin coat of transmission oil on gasket can help to hold into place during installation. Double check your mounting instructions as some newer transmissions (Allison and Fuller) have been designed with a controlled compression type gasket and a predetermined backlash, which is to eliminate the need to check backlash.

12. Check the backlash; the goal is .006 in.–.012 in. As a reference the thin gasket measures .010mm and when compressed it is .006 in., and the thick gasket measures .020 in. and when compressed it is .012 in. Do not stack more than four gasket or shims together. On Allison transmissions (AT-500, MT-600, HT-700, 1000, 2000, and 2400 Series only) use a single .030 in. gasket or shim.

 

Note: Never use silicone type sealants on PTO the transmission mounting surface. A roper backlash cannot be attained, and you may need to adjust the amount of gasket or shims to achieve the proper backlash.

 

13. Torque all fasteners to the appropriate settings to eliminate possible leaks which could lead to PTO and or transmission damage.

14. Depending on the type of PTO used, place the shift cover or inspection plate on the PTO and torque nuts to specified requirements.

15. There may be a case where a gear adapter is required, remember backlash must bet set at two locations. First, set correct backlash between adapter and PTO and set the gaskets aside. Second, mount the adapter with proper backlash to the transmission. Then, mount the PTO to the adapter with the correct gasket which you set aside.

16. Start the truck engine (with PTO and transmission in neutral) for only a few seconds and listen for any unusual noises. Keep the PTO and transmission running time as short as possible until transmission is refilled with transmission fluid.

17. Beware and stay clear of any rotating components. A whine noise that elevates with the RPM indicates a PTO is mounted too tight, which would require an additional gasket; stop the engine, repeat the process using a dial indicator to check your backlash, and add a gasket. A clatter noise indicates the PTO is mounted too loose, so it would require removing a gasket; stop the engine, repeat the process using a dial indicator to check your backlash, and remove a gasket. Afterward, repeat this test with PTO engaged.
Please note:

  • A PTO will not always make these noises.
  • Do not adjust backlash by noise alone, always visually check backlash and use a dial indicator.
  • Sometimes filling the transmission with fluid is the only way to reduce the noise.

RELATED: Troubleshooting: PTO noise

18. Refill transmission with manufacturer’s approved fluid and proper amount, then run engine for five to 10 minutes to check for leaks. With engine off re-torque the fasteners to appropriate settings.

19. Install the appropriate shifter kit components, including the supplied PTO shift indicator light. On air systems only, the pressure protection valve requires the main tank pressure to exceed 65 PSI to operate PTO system.

20. If direct mounting a hydraulic pump weighing over 40 lbs. (weight includes fittings, oil, and unsupported hose sections), exceeding 12 in. in length, tandem or multiple section pumps, a high vibration engine, or off-road vehicles a rigid four-point support bracket needs to be installed. The bracket should be attached to the rear of the pump and to the transmission to support the pump, and to inhibit movement in all directions.

21. Add the PTO to the regular inspection routine of the application, and look for leaks and re-torque all mounting bolts, nuts, and cap-screws on a regular basis.

 

RELATED: How to use the PTO Builder

 

Additional information:

WATCH: Step-by-step video on installing the A20 Series PTO. 

 

It is important to select the proper PTO to match up with both the transmission and application requirements. Muncie has a web-based PTO builder or Quick Reference Catalog for help in correct application selection.

 

 

Follow the manufacturer’s recommended installation instructions that are sent with the completed PTO unit. Pull the PTO unit, gasket, and fastener kits out to inspect for defects or damage before installing it.

View all PTO literature, including installation instructions, here

 

Additional reference material: Understanding Power take-Off Systems (TR-G94-01 Rev.10-17).

 

Muncie Power Products has a customer service department that puts people first. If you have any questions or concerns, reach out for questions: 1-800-367-7867 or 765-284-7721.


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